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Tuesday, March 21, 2017

Matthew 22:19-22, Mark 12:14-17 and Tithing



MT 22:19-22; MK 12:14-17 AND TITHING

DID JESUS FORBID GIVING MAN'S MONEY TO GOD'S WORK IN MT 22:19-21 AND MK 12:14-17?

Would some Bible genius please explain these texts to me? The commentaries fail miserably.

Matt 22:19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
Matt 22:20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
Matt 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Mark 12:14 … Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?
Mark 12:15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

Friday, March 10, 2017

SINS AFTER CALVARY DO NOT INCLUDE SABBATH-BREAKING OR TITHING



SINS IN THE N.T. AFTER CALVARY
Compiled by Russell Earl Kelly, PHD, 3-10-2017

There are a bare minimum of FIFTY-EIGHT (58) sins other than the Ten Commandments listed in the New Testament after Calvary for the Church. Surprisingly for Seventh-day Adventists, “sabbath-breaking” is not among them --- neither is robbing God of tithes.

1. WORSHIPPING OTHER GODS; Acts 17:29-30
2. IDOLATRY: 1 Cor 5:11L; 6:9L; 10:7, 14; 12:2; Gal 5:20L; Eph 5:5L; 1 Thes 1:9; 1 Jn 5:21; Rev 21:8L; 22:15L
3. DISHONORING PARENTS: Rom 1:30L; Eph 6:1-3L; Col 3:20; 1 Tim 5:4
4. BREAKING THE SABBATH (none)
5. MURDER: Rom 1:29L; Gal 5:21L; Js 2:11; 1 Pet 4:15; Rev 9:21L; 22:15L
6.  THEFT: Acts 5:2; 1 Cor 6:10L; Eph 4:28; 1 Pet 4:15; Rev 9:21L
7. ADULTERY: Rom 7:4; 1 Cor 6:9L; Gal 5:19L; Js 2:11
8. LYING: Acts 5:4; Rom 1:29L deceit, malignity; deceitfully handling the word, 2 Cor 4:2, dishonesty; lying, Eph 4:25; Col 3:9; slander, 1 Tim 3:11
9-10: COVETING: envy Rom 1:29; 7:7; 1 Cor 5:11; 6:10L; envy, Gal 5:21L; Eph 5:3, 5L; idolatry, Col 3:5L, James 3:14L; Rev 21:8L; 22:15L
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ABOMINATION: Rev 21:8L
BUSYBODY: 1 Pet 4:15
COVENANT-BREAKING: Rom 1:31
CRAFTINESS: 2 Cor 4:2
DEBT: Rom 13:8
DISOBEYING GOVERNMENT: Rom 13:5
DOGS: Rev 22:15L
DOUBLE MINDEDNESS: James 1:8
DRUNKENNESS: 1 Cor 5:11; 6:10L; Gal 5:21L; 1 Tim 3:11
EMULATIONS (trying to outdo another): Gal 5:20L
ENVY: James 3:14, 16
EXTORTIONER: 1 Cor 5:11L; 6:10L
EVIL DESIRE, CONCUPISCENCE: Col 3:6L
FAITHLESSNESS: Rom 14:23; UNBELIEVING: Rev 21:8L
FEARFUL: Rev 21:8L
FILTHINESS:James 1:21
FORNICATION: Rom 1:29; 1 Cor 5:11; 6:9L; Gal 5:19L; Eph 5:3, 5L; Col 3:5L; 1 Thes 4:11; Rev 9:21L
GOSSIP: Rom 1:29L whisperers, backbiters, 1:30L; revilers 1 Cor 6:10L
HATRED: Rom 1:29L; Gal 5:20L:
HERESIES: Gal 5:20L
HOMOSEXUALITY: Rom 1:26-27; 1 Cor 6:9L
HYPOCRISY: James 3:17
KEEPING COMPANY WITH (SINNERS): 1 Cor 5:11L
LASCIVIOUS, arousing sexual desire, lewd: Gal 5:19:
LOVE FAILURE: Rom 13:9-10L
LUST: James 1:14
MALICIOUSESS: Rom 1:29L, inventors of evil thins, 1:30L; naughtiness, James 1:21
MERCILESS: James 2:13
PARENTS PROVOKING CHILDREN: Eph 6:4L
PASSION, INORDINATE DESIRE: Col 3:6L
PLEASURE IN DISOBEDIENCE: Rom 1:32
PROUD, DESPITEFUL, BOASTERS: Rom 1:30L; 1 Cor 5:11L
REPLACING RBF WITH LAW: Acts 15:10; Rom 8:1-2; Gal 3:3; Eph 2:8-9
RESPECTING PERSONS: Eph 6:10; James 2:1-10
REVILING (abusive speech): Gal 5:21L
SEDITIONS (anti-government incitement): Gal 5:20L
SEXUAL PERVERTS: 1 Cor 6:9L
SLANDER: 1 Tim 3:11
SLAVES DISOBEY MASTERS: Eph 6:5-8; 1 Tim 6:1
SLAVE OWNERS MIS-TREAT: Eph 6:9L
SORCERY (practice black magic, wizard): Rev 9:21L; 21:8L; 22:15l
SPEAKING FAST (without listening): James 1:19
STRIFE: Gal 5:20L; Js 3:14, 16
STUBBORN: Rom 1:31 implaccable
UNBRIDLED TONGUE: Js 1:26
UNCLEANNESS: Gal 5:19L; Eph 5:3, 5L; Col 3:5L
UNCONTROLLED TONGUE: Js 3
UNFAITHFUL: 1 Tim 3:11
UNFITNESS, UNHEALTHINESS: Rom 1:1-2
UNMERCIFUL: Rom 1:31
VARIANCE: Gal 5:20L
WAVERING: Js 1:6
WHOREMONGERS: Rev 21:8L; 22:15l
WICKEDNESS: (Rom 1:29)
WITCHCRAFT: Gal 5:20L
WITHOUT NATURAL AFFECTION: Rom 1:31L
WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING: Rom 1:31L
WRATH: Gal 5:20L; Js 1:19
TOTAL: 58, March 10, 2017
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Acts 5:2-6; Rom 1:29-32L; 7:3, 7; 13:9; 1 Cor 5:11L; 6:9-10; 10:7, 14; 12:2; 2 Cor 4:2; Gal 5:19-21; Eph 4:25, 28; 5:3, 5-6; 6:1-3; Col 3:5, 9, 20; 1 Th 1:9; 4:3; 1 Tim 3:11; 5:4; 6:1; Titus 3:2; 1 Pet 4:15; 1 Jn 5:21; James all; 1 Jn 3:14-15; Jude 7; Rev 9:21L; 21:8; 21; 22:15
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SIN BEFORE THE LAW OR OUTSIDE THE FOMAL LAW
John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie
Rom 1:27 leaving the natural use of the woman
Rom 1:28 as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.   [see verse 20]
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression … [partial ignorance]
Rom 5:15 … for if through the offence of one many be dead …
Rom 5:16 … for the judgment was by one to condemnation …
Rom 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one …
Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation …
Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners …
Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Rom 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death …
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Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Sunday, February 19, 2017

Russell Kelly Rebuts Come Let Us Grow Together on Tithing



Come Let Us Grow Together tithing

Russell Kelly Rebuts cpministries
Feb 18, 2017, Come Let Us Grow Together

Grow: A crucial topic that many Christians do not understand is that paying tithes is a commandment of God and does not cease under the New Testament Covenant. 

Kelly: Not a single statement in this article applies to the church today.

Grow: Something many overlook is that tithing was instituted before the Law of Moses came to be. 

Kelly: The tithing which existed before the law in Genesis 14 and 22 was pagan in origin and practiced by many pagan religions before  2000 BC.

Grow: Therefore tithing is outside of the Law.

Kelly: Abram’s and Jacob’s tithes from pagan sources would not have been classified as holy tithes under the law by Moses, Nehemiah, Malachi or Jesus.

Grow: Tithing was also in the Law.

Kelly: According to Leviticus 27:30-34 and 15 other pre-Calvary texts, holy tithes (as the word is used by Moses, Nehemiah, Malachi and Jesus) were always only food from inside God’s holy land of Israel. The first whole Levitical tithe went to the servants of the priests (Numb 18:21-24) and ministers only received one per cent (Numb 18:25-28). Tithe recipients could not inherit land in Israel or amass wealth (Numb 18:20). None of this is followed today.

Grow: Jesus Christ is after the order of Melchisedec.

Kelly: Yes, the “order” of “priest-king” and not the literal historical person of Melchizedek.

Grow: Heb 7:2 first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

Kelly: Notice that Jesus was literally the King of Righteousness and the King of Peace. The literal historical person of Melchizedek was only such “by interpretation.”

Grow: Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek. …  Tithing was being instituted here.  

Kelly: Not holy biblical tithes as the word is used by Moses and Jesus. The Bible does not tell us why uncircumcised Gentile Abram tithed.

Grow: 7:3 tenth of the spoils.

Kelly: Yes.  Not holy tithes from inside holy Israel. Spoils were from pagan sources. Not an example.

Grow: 5  And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law

Kelly: Heb 5 controls the words “commandment,” “tithes” and “law” in Hebrews 7.

Grow: Heb 7:7 Melchisedec who was God.

Kelly: No, the literal historical Melchizedek was only a type of Christ --- by interpretation of his name – by a similitude. His unrecorded birth, genealogy and death makes him a type.

Grow: Heb 7:8 

Kelly: The temple was still operating and its Levites and priests were still receiving Christ as His representatives.

Grow: There are two orders.  The order of Aaron and the order of Melchisedec. 

Kelly: Since Israel had no king-priests, it was necessary to go outside of its structure to find a typical “order” among the Gentiles who had many king-priests.

Grow: Romans 3:19-20

Kelly: Romans 3:21-23.

Grow: Hebrews 8:6-8
6  But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7  For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Kelly: Now every believer is a priest before God and priests did not tithe. They gave sacrificially.

Grow: Heb 8:8

Kelly: Heb 8:9 The New Covenant is not the Old Covenant repeated.

Grow: Hebrews 7:12

Kelly: It was necessary to change the Old Covenant priesthood and the law governing it.

Grow: Heb 7:18  For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Kelly: How was the law (of tithing from Heb 7:5) changed? Read your own text; it is clear. It was abolished, annulled, abrogated. It was not transferred to the gospel ministry.

Grow: Heb 7:26-28

Kelly: This is the lesson of Hebrews 7 --- not tithing. Aaron’s priesthood was replaced by Christ’s according to the “order” of Melchizedek. Unlike Aaron, Jesus’ priesthood is that of a king-priest.

Grow: Remember that when you pay tithes, you are not tithing unto men but unto God.

Kelly:
A.          You define holy tithes wrong.
B.          You give them to gospel workers instead of their (Levite) servants.
C.          You allow so-called tithe recipients to own and inherit much property and amass much wealth.
D.          Nothing you teach about tithes can be defended in context from God’s Word.
E.          I invite an open public discussion of this subject but none will do so because they lose at every point.

Grow: Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.

Kelly: And how do you interpret this text? What is the difference between the Old and New Covenants?

Grow: Malachi 3:8-11

Kelly: In Mal 3:1o tithes are still only food from inside Israel 1000 years after Leviticus 27:30-34. TEACH THAT. In 1:6-14; 2:1-10; 2:13-17 and throughout God curses the dishonest ministers for stealing the tithe (1:6-14 and Neh 134:5-10).

Grow: 1 Corinthians 9:9-14

Kelly: Each vocation has its own principles of support: soldier, farmer, herdsman, temple worker and gospel worker. The gospel worker is to live by principles of the gospel – grace and faith.

Russell Earl Kelly
russkellyphd@yahoo.com
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