Pages

Sunday, July 16, 2006

Tithing is Not a Christian Doctrine

An Essay by Russell Earl Kelly, PH. D., July 5, 2006
www.shouldthechurchteachtithing.com

Introduction:
The following essay is a summary of my book, Should the Church Teach Tithing? A Theologian’s Conclusions about a Taboo Doctrine. The book itself is a greatly expanded version of my PH. D. thesis. I challenge Bible educators to be bold, to open up their seminary level research and to promote studies on this subject in the Masters, Doctorate and PH. D. levels. This doctrine is simply too important to ignore.

In many churches today the doctrine of tithing has reached the level of a modern scandal. While on the one hand, most seminary-level textbooks on systematic theology and hermeneutics by highly educated theologians omit tithing, on the other hand, the practice is quickly becoming a requirement for church membership in the very denominations which insist on solid Bible-based doctrines. There is also increasing evidence that lay persons who question the legitimacy of New Covenant tithing are usually criticized and ignored as being troublemakers or weak Christians.

Modern Tithing is Based on Many False Assumptions

One denomination’s statement on stewardship is typical of what many others teach about tithing. It says that "tithing is the minimum biblical standard and the beginning point which God has established that must not be replaced or compromised by any other standard." It adds that the tithe is from gross income which is due to the church before taxes.
The following points of this essay contrast the false teachings used to support tithing with what God’s Word actually says.

Point #1 N. T. Giving Principles in Second Corinthians 8 and 9 are Superior to Tithing.

The false teaching is that tithing is a divine mandatory expectation which always must precede free-will giving.

Free-will giving existed before tithing. The following New Covenant free-will principles are found in Second Corinthians, chapters 8 and 9: (1) Giving is a "grace.” These chapters use the word, "grace," eight times in reference to helping poor saints. (2) Give yourself to God first (8:5). (3) Give yourself to knowing God’s will (8:5). (4) Give in response to Christ’s gift (8:9; 9:15). (5) Give out of a sincere desire (8:8, 10, 12; 9:7). (6) Do not give because of any commandment (8:8, 10; 9:7). (7) Give beyond your ability (8:3, 11, 12). (8) Give to produce equality. This means that those who have more should give more in order to make up for the inability of those who cannot afford to give as much (8:12-14). (9) Give joyfully (8:2). (10) Give because you are growing spiritually (8:3, 4, 7). (11) Give because you want to continue growing spiritually (9:8, 10, 11). (12) Give because you are hearing the gospel preached (9:13).

Point #2 In God’s Word, the Tithe is Always Only Food!

The false teaching is that biblical tithes include ALL sources of income.

Use God’s Word to define “tithe.” Do not use a secular dictionary! Open a complete Bible concordance and you will discover that the definition used by tithe-advocates is wrong. In God’s Word “tithe” does not stand alone. Although money existed, the original source of God's "tithe" was never money. It was the “tithe of food.” This is very important. **True biblical tithes were always only food from the farms and herds of only Israelites who only lived inside God’s Holy Land, the national boundary of Israel.** The increase was gathered from what God produced and not man's craft or ability.

There are 15 verses from 11 chapters and 8 books from Leviticus 27 to Luke 11 which describe the contents of the tithe. And the contents never (again), never included money, silver, gold or anything other than food from inside Israel! Yet the incorrect definition of "tithe" is the greatest lie being preached about tithing today! (See Lev. 27:30, 32; Numb. 18:27, 28; Deut. 12:17; 14:22, 23; 26 12; 2 Chron. 31:5, 6; Neh. 10:37; 13:5; Mal. 3:10; Matt. 23:23; Luke 11: 42).

Point #3 Abraham’s Tithe to Melchizedek Reflected Pagan Tradition.

The false teaching is that Abraham freely gave tithes because it was God’s will.

For the following reasons, Genesis 14:20 cannot be used as an example for Christians to tithe. (1) The Bible does not say that Abraham "freely" gave this tithe. (2) Abraham’s gift was NOT a holy tithe from God’s holy land gathered by God’s holy people under God’s holy Old Covenant. (3) Abraham’s tithe was only from pagan spoils of war common to many nations. (4) In Numbers 31, God only required 1% of spoils of war. (5) Abraham’s tithe to Melchizedek was a one-time recorded event. (6) Abraham’s tithe was not from his own personal property. (7) Abraham kept nothing for himself; he gave everything back. (8) Abraham’s tithe is not quoted anywhere in the Bible to endorse tithing. (9) Genesis 14, verse 21, is the key text. Since most commentaries explain verse 21 as an example of pagan Arab tradition, it is contradictory to explain the 90% of verse 21 as pagan, while insisting that the 10% of verse 20 was God’s will. (10) If Abraham is an example for Christians to give 10% to God, then he should also be an example for Christians to give the other 90% to Satan, or to the king of Sodom! (11) Since neither Abraham nor Jacob had a Levitical priesthood to support, they had no place to bring tithes and probably left food for the poor at their altars.

Point #4 First-Tithes were Received by Servants to the Priests.

The false teaching is that Old Testament priests received all of the first tithe.

The "whole" tithe, the first tithe, did not go to the priests at all. According to Numbers 18:21-24 and Nehemiah 10:37, it went to the servants of the priests, the Levites. And according to Numbers 18:25-28 and Nehemiah 10:38, the Levites gave the best “tenth of this tithe” (1%) which they received to the priests who ministered the sin sacrifices and served inside the holy places. Priests personally did not tithe at all.

It is also important to know that, in exchange for receiving these tithes, both Levites and priests forfeited all rights to permanent land inheritance inside Israel (Numb. 18:20-26; Deut. 12:12; 14:27, 29; 18:1, 2; Josh. 13:14, 33; 14:3; 18:7; Ezek. 44:28). Even if tithes were New Covenant they would first go to the (Levites) deacons to assist the preachers and maintain the buildings.

Point #5 The Phrase, "It is Holy to the LORD," Does Not Make Tithing an Eternal Moral Principle.

The false teaching is that Leviticus 27:30-33 proves that the tithe is an "eternal moral principle" because "it is holy to the LORD."

The phrases “it is HOLY unto the LORD” and “it is MOST HOLY unto the LORD” are very common in Leviticus. Almost every other use of these same two phrases in Leviticus has long ago been discarded by Christians. These phrases are used to describe all of the festivals, the sacrificial offerings, the clean food, the old covenant priests and the old covenant sanctuary. Especially read verses 28 and 29 in the same chapter.

Point #6 There are Four Different Tithes Described in the Bible.

The false teaching ignores all other tithes and focuses on an incorrect interpretation of the first religious tithe.

The first religious tithe, called the "Levitical tithe," had two parts. Again, the whole first tithe was given to the Levites who were only servants to the priests (Numb. 18:21-24; Neh. 10:37). The Levites, in turn, gave one tenth of the whole tithe to the priests (Numb. 18:25-28; Neh. 10:38). According to Deuteronomy 12 and 14, the second religious tithe, called the "feast tithe," was eaten by worshipers in the streets of Jerusalem during the three yearly festivals (Deut. 12:1-19; 14:22-26). And, according to Deuteronomy 14 and 26, a third tithe, called the "poor tithe," was kept in the homes every third year to feed the poor (Deut. 14:28, 29; 26:12,13). Also, according to First Samuel 8:14-17 the ruler collected the first and best ten per cent for political use. During Jesus’ time Rome collected the first ten per cent (10%) of most food and twenty per cent (20%) of fruit crops as its spoils of war. One wonders what "churches" are trying to hide when they single out the one religious tithe which best suits their purposes and ignore the other two important religious tithes.

Another common error is to equate the tithe with the “first-fruit” or even the “best.” While the “tithe of the tithe” (1%) which was given to the priests was the “best” of what the Levites received, the tithe which the Levites received was only “one tenth” and not necessarily the “best” (Lev. 27:32, 33). Also, while the first-fruit and firstborn of every clean animal was brought directly to the temple, the tithe was brought directly to the Levitical cities (Neh. 10:35-38). According to some historians, the first-fruit was an extremely small offering. Often an entire village’s first-fruit could be carried by one animal.

Point #7 Jesus, Peter, Paul and the Poor Did Not Tithe!

The false teaching is that everybody in the Old Testament was required to begin their giving to God at the ten per cent level.

The poor were not required to tithe at all! Neither did the tithe come from the results of man’s craft, hands and skill. Only farmers and herdsmen gathered what God produced as tithe increase. Jesus was a carpenter; Paul was a tentmaker and Peter was a fisherman. None of these occupations qualified as tithe-payers because they did not farm or herd animals for a living. It is, therefore, incorrect to teach that everybody paid a required minimum of a tithe and, therefore, that New Covenant Christians should be required to at least begin at the same minimum as Old Covenant Israelites. This common false assumption is very often repeated and completely ignores the very plain definition of tithe as food gathered from farm increase or herd increase.

It is also wrong to teach that the poor in Israel were required to pay tithes. In fact, they actually received tithes! Much of the second festival tithe and all of a special third-year tithe went to the poor. Many laws protected the poor from abuse and expensive sacrifices which they could not afford (see also Lev. 14:21; 25:6, 25-28, 35, 36; 27:8; Deu. 12:1-19; 14:23, 28, 29; 15:7, 8, 11; 24:12, 14, 15, 19, 20; 26:11-13; Mal. 3:5; Matt. 12:1, 2; Mark 2:23, 24; Luke 2:22-24; 6:1, 2; 2 Cor. 8:12-14; 1 Tim. 5:8; Jas. 1:27).

Point #8 Tithes were Often Used as Political Taxes.

The false teaching is that tithes are never comparable to taxes or taxation.

In the Hebrew economy, the tithe was used in a totally different manner than it is preached today. Once again, those Levites who received the whole tithe were not even ministers or priests -- they were only servants to the priests. Numbers chapter 3 describes the Levites as carpenters, metal workers, leather-craftsmen and artists who maintained the small sanctuary. And, according to First Chronicles, chapters 23-27, during the time of King David and King Solomon the Levites were still skilled craftsmen who inspected and approved all work in the Temple: 24, 000 worked in the Temple as builders and supervisors; 6,000 were officials and judges; 4,000 were guards and 4,000 were musicians. As political representatives of the king, Levites used their tithe income to serve as officials, judges, tax collectors, treasurers, temple guards, musicians, bakers, singers and professional soldiers (1 Chron. 12:23, 26; 27:5). It is obvious why these examples of using biblical tithe-income are never used as examples in the church today.

It is also important to know that Old Covenant tithes were never used for evangelism of non-Israelites. Tithing failed! See Hebrews 7:12-19. Tithes never stimulated Old Covenant Levites or priests to establish a single mission outreach or encourage a single Gentile to become an Israelite (Ex. 23:32; 34:12, 15; Deut. 7:2). Old Covenant tithing was motivated and mandated by Law, not love. In fact, during most of Israel’s history the prophets were God’s primary spokesmen – and not the tithe-receiving Levites and priests.

Point #9 Levitical Tithes were Normally Taken to the Levitical Cities.

False teachers want us to think that all tithes were formerly taken to the Temple and should now be taken to the "church storehouse” building.

The “whole” tithe NEVER went to the Temple. In reality, the overwhelming majority of Levitical tithes never went to the Temple. Those who teach otherwise ignore the Levitical cities and the 24 courses of the Levites and priests. According to Numbers 35, Joshua 20, 21 and First Chronicles 6, Levites and priests lived on borrowed land like Jericho and Hebron surrounding the Levitical cities where they farmed and raised (tithed) animals. And it is clear from Numbers 18:20-24, Second Chronicles 31:15-19 and Nehemiah 10:37 that the ordinary people were expected to bring their tithes to the Levitical cities. Why? That is where 98% of the Levites and priests lived with their families most of the time. See also Nehemiah 13:9.

Point #10 Malachi 3 is the Most Abused Tithing Text in the Bible.

The false teaching about tithes from Malachi 3 ignores five important Bible facts.

(1) Malachi is Old Covenant context and is never quoted in the New Covenant to validate tithing (Lev. 27:34; Neh. 10:28, 29; Mal. 3:7; 4:4). (2) In 1:6; 2:1 and 3:1-5, Malachi is very clearly addressed to dishonest priests who are cursed because they had stolen the best offerings from God. (3) The Levitical cities must be considered and Jerusalem was not a Levitical city (Josh 20, 21). It makes no sense to teach that 100% of the tithe was brought to the Temple when most Levites and priests did not live in Jerusalem. (4) In Malachi 3:10-11 tithes are still only food (Lev. 27:30-33). (5) The 24 courses of Levites and priests must also be considered. Beginning with King David and King Solomon, they were divided into 24 families. These divisions were also put into place in Malachi’s time by Ezra and Nehemiah. Since normally only one family served in the Temple for only one week at a time, there was absolutely no reason to send ALL of the tithe to the Temple when 98% of those it was designed to feed were still in the Levitical cities (1 Chron. 24-26; 28:13, 21; 2 Chron. 8:14; 23:8; 31:2, 15-19; 35:4, 5, 10; Ezra 6:18; Neh. 11:19, 30; 12:24; 13:9, 10; Luke 1:5).

Therefore, when the context of the Levitical cities, the 24 families of priests, under-age children, wives, Numbers 18:20-28, 2 Chronicles 31:15-19, Nehemiah 10-13, and all of Malachi are all evaluated, only about 2% of the total first tithe was normally required at the Temple in Jerusalem.


Both the blessing and the curse of Malachi 3:9-11 only lasted for Israelites until the Old Covenant ended at Calvary. Malachi’s audience had willingly reaffirmed the Old Covenant (Neh.10:28, 29). “Cursed be he that confirms not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen” (Deut. 27:26 quoted in Gal. 3:10). And Jesus ended the curse. “Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree” (Gal. 3:13).

Today the very lowest income class pays the largest percentage to charity. Yet most remain in poverty. Neither the lottery, nor the tithe is a magic get-rich-quick answer to replace education, determination and hard work. If Malachi 3:10 really worked for New Covenant Christians, then millions of poor tithing Christians would have escaped poverty and would have become the wealthiest group of people in the world instead of remaining the poorest group. Therefore there is no evidence that the vast majority of poor “tithe-payers” are ever blessed financially merely because they tithe. The Old Covenant blessings are not New Covenant blessings (Heb. 7:18, 19; 8:6-8, 13).

Point #11 Tithing is not Taught in the New Testament.

The false teaching is that Jesus taught tithing in Matthew 23:23 which, they say, is clearly in the New Testament.

The New Covenant did not begin at the birth of Jesus, but at his death (Gal. 3:19, 24, 25; 4:4). Tithing is not taught to the church after Calvary! When Jesus discussed tithing in Matthew 23:23, he was only commanding Jewish obedience to the Old Covenant Law which he endorsed and supported until Calvary. In Matthew 23:2, 3 Jesus told his followers to obey the scribes and Pharisees "because they sit in Moses’ seat." Yet He did not command Gentiles whom He healed to present themselves to the priests and obey the Law of Moses.

There is not a single New Testament Bible text which teaches tithing after Calvary – period! Acts 2:42-47 and 4:32-35 are not examples of tithing to support church leaders. According to 2:46 the Jewish Christians continued to worship in the Temple. And according to 2:44 and 4:33, 34 church leaders shared what they received equally with all church members. (This is not done today). Finally Acts 21:20-25 proves that Jewish Christians were still zealously observing all of the Mosaic Law 30 years later –and that must include tithing—otherwise they would not have been allowed inside the Temple to worship. Therefore, any tithes collected by the early Jewish Christians were given to the Temple system and not to support the church.

Point #12 Old Covenant Priests were Replaced by Believer-Priests.

The false teaching is that New Covenant elders and pastors are simply continuing where the Old Covenant priests left off and are due the tithe.

Compare Exodus 19:5, 6 with First Peter 2: 9, 10. Before the incident of the golden calves, God had intended for every Israelite to become a priest and tithing would have never been enacted. Priests did not tithe but received one tenth of the first tithe (Numb. 18:26-28; Neh. 10:37, 38).
The function and purpose of Old Covenant priests were replaced, not by elders and pastors, but by the priesthood of every believer. Like other ordinances of the Law, tithing was only a temporary shadow until Christ (Eph. 2:14-16; Col. 2:13-17; Heb. 10:1). In the New Covenant every believer is a priest to God (1 Pet. 2:9, 10; Rev. 1:6; 5:10). And, as a priest, every believer offers sacrifices to God (Heb. 4:16; 10:19-22; 13:15, 16). Therefore, every ordinance which had previously applied to the old priesthood was blotted out at Calvary. Since Jesus was not from the tribe of Levi, even He was disqualified. Thus the original temporary purpose of tithing no longer exists (Heb. 7:12-19; Gal. 3:19, 24, 25; 2 Cor. 3:10).

Point #13 The New Covenant Church is Neither a Building nor a Storehouse.

The false teaching is that Christian buildings called "churches," "tabernacles" or "temples" replaced the OT Temple as God’s dwelling places.

God’s Word never describes New Covenant churches as "tabernacles," "temples" or "buildings" in which God dwells! God’s church, God’s dwelling place, is within the believers. Believers do not "go to church" -- believers “assemble to worship.” Also, since OT priests did not pay tithes, then tithing cannot logically continue. Therefore it is wrong to call a building "God’s storehouse" for tithes. (1 Cor. 3:16, 17; 6:19, 20; Eph. 1:22, 23; 2:21; 4:12-16; Rev. 3:12). For "storehouse" compare 1 Corinthians 16:2 with 2 Corinthians 12:14 and Acts 20:17, 32-35. For several centuries after Calvary Christians did not even have their own buildings (to call storehouses) because Christianity was an outlaw religion.

Point #14 The Church Grows by Using Better New Covenant Principles.

The false teaching implies that principles of grace giving are not as good as Old Covenant principles of giving.

Under the New Covenant: (1) According to Galatians 5:16-23, there is no physical law which controls the fruits of the Holy Spirit. (2) Second Corinthians 3:10 says that the Old Covenant has "no glory" when compared to the "surpassing" glory and liberty of the Holy Spirit. (3) Hebrews 7 is the only post-Calvary mention of tithing and it is an explanation of why the Levitical priesthood must be replaced by Christ’s priesthood because it was weak and unprofitable. Study Hebrews 7 and follow the progression from verse 5 to verse 12 to verse 19. (4) The manner in which tithing is taught today reflects a failure of the church to believe and act on the far better principles of love, grace and faith. Mandatory giving principles cannot, has not and will not prosper the church more than principles guided by love for Christ and lost souls (2 Cor. 8:7, 8).

Point #15 The Apostle Paul Preferred that Church Leaders be Self-Supporting.

The false teaching is that Paul taught and practiced tithing.

Nothing could be farther from the truth. As a Jewish rabbi, Paul was among those who insisted on working to support himself (Acts 18:3; 1 Thess. 2:9, 10; 2 Thess. 3:8-14). While Paul does not condemn those who are able to receive full-time support, neither does he teach that full-time support is the mandatory will of God for advancing the gospel (1 Cor. 9:12). In fact, twice, in Acts 20:29-35 and also in 2 Corinthians 12:14, Paul actually encouraged church elders to work to support needy believers inside the church.

For Paul, "living of the gospel" meant "living by gospel principles of faith, love and grace" (1 Cor. 9:14). While Paul realized that he had a "right" to some support, he concluded that his "liberty," or freedom to preach unhindered was more important in order to fulfill his calling from God (1 Cor. 9:15; 11:7-13; 12:13, 14;1 Thess. 2:5, 6). While working as a tent-maker, Paul accepted limited support but boasted that his pay, or salary, was that he could preach the gospel for free, without being a burden to others (1 Cor. 9:16-19).

Point #16 Tithing Did Not Become a Law in the Church until A. D. 777.

The false teaching is that the historical church has always taught tithing.

The earliest Christian assemblies patterned themselves after the Jewish synagogues which were led by rabbis who, like Paul, refused to gain a profit from preaching and teaching God’s Word. There are many books on Jewish social life which explain this in great detail

From Christ’s death until Christianity became a legally recognized religion almost 300 years later, the great majority of church leaders took self-imposed vows of poverty. This can be historically documented! They took Jesus’ words to the rich young ruler in Luke 18:22 literally “sell all that you have, give it to the poor, and follow me.” Most church historians agree that these early church leaders for at least the first 200 years worked for a living and were self-supporting. How could a Christian leader tell a Roman census-taker that he was a full-time preacher? That would almost guarantee his death!

Clement of Rome (c95), Justin Martyr (c150), Irenaeus (c150-200) and Tertullian (150-220) all opposed tithing as a strictly Jewish tradition. The Didache (c150-200) actually condemns traveling apostles who stay longer than three days and ask for money. And travelers who decided to remain with them were required to lean a trade. These early opponents of tithing are not quoted by tithe-teachers.

Cyprian (200-258) tried to impose tithing in Carthage, North Africa around A. D. 250. At his conversion Cyprian gave away great personal wealth to the poor and lived under a vow of poverty. His idea of tithing included equal re-distribution to the poor. And –we must remember— his ideas of tithing were not adopted.

When tithe-teachers quote Ambrose, Chrysostom and Augustine as so-called “church fathers” they conveniently leave out the first 200 years of church history. Even after Christianity became legal in the fourth century for over a thousand years the greatest spiritual leaders almost all took vows of deep poverty and preferred to live unmarried lives in monasteries. If these tithe-teachers are quoted, then the church should also be told what kind of lives they usually led and how they redistributed the tithe to the poor

Tithing was not always in the church. While disagreeing with their own theologians, most church historians write that tithing did not become an accepted doctrine in the church for over 700 years after Calvary. According to the very best historians and encyclopedias, it took over 500 years before the local church Council of Macon in France, in the year 585, tried unsuccessfully to enforce tithing on its members. It was not until the year 777 that Emperor Charlemagne legally allowed the church to collect tithes –and even then it was to gain favor with the Pope. That, my friend, is the history of tithing found in the Encyclopedia Britannica, Encyclopedia Americana and the Roman Catholic Encyclopedia for everybody to read. These historical facts ought to prove something to somebody.

Conclusion:
In God’s Word, “tithe” does not stand alone. It is the “tithe of FOOD.” The biblical tithe was very narrowly defined and limited by God Himself. True biblical tithes were always: (1) only food, (2) only from the farms and herds, (3) of only Israelites, (4) who only lived inside God’s Holy Land, the national boundary of Israel, (5) only under Old Covenant terms and (6) the increase could only be gathered from what God' produced.
Therefore, (1) non-food items could not be tithed; (2) clean wild game animals and fish could not be tithed; (3) non-Israelites could not tithe; (4) food from outside God’s holy land of Israel did not enter the Temple; (5) legitimate tithing did not occur when there was no Levitical priesthood; and (5) tithes did not come from what man’s hands created, produced or caught by hunting and fishing.

I invite church leaders into an open discussion of this subject. The careful and prayerful study of God’s Word are essential for church growth. May God bless you.
(I encourage you to reprint and distribute this article.)

4 comments:

Chuck King... said...

Thanks, Russell, for your comments. I appreciate your views. I'll add my response as ** below...

Chuck King

russkellyphd has left a new comment on your post "A Mission Strategy...":

How did the first century church so effectively reach their world for Jesus with little wealth or technology?

Comment: Acts 15 and 21 (especially 20-21 proves that the early Jewish Christians never stopped paying tithes to the Temple system. The Gentile Church Fathers rejected tithing as a purely Jewish tradition.

**I agree that the Jewish believers in Jerusalem kept the Law, but I don't agree they should have kept the ceremonial & temple practices that Jesus fulfilled with His death/resurrection, or continued to trust their own works to be saved. We have no Hope without the Holy Spirit's Grace working through us! Yet he will honor His Word through us.

that we may follow all the words of this law (Deut. 29:29).

Comment: Read all of Deuteronomy 27 through 29. ALL means ALL 613 laws in order to avoid the curse of the law. Galatians 3:10-13.

**Every person in the NT taught from the OT! They believed in the Truth of God's Word---that His Word was to be obeyed. You are in very dangerous territory when you teach and encourage people to ignore the OT Word of God. Jesus did not teach you to do so. And I have no respect for the teachings of the "fathers" that came after the NT was completed (at the end of first century). Jesus fulfills the Law in us by His Holy Spirit. You must be discerning in the Word to know the difference between the fulfilled ceremonial/temple Law in the death/resurrection of Jesus and the Eternal Word that still applies to us. I do not promote legalism, but obedience to the Word by the Grace of the Holy Spirit.

God does not change!

Comment: He sets different covenant conditions; he did not make the same covenant with both OT Israel and the NT Church. The priesthood differed the Temple differed; the sacrificial system differed; the Law never applied to Gentiles.

**I agree, yet obedience to His Word remains our condition. The gentiles did not forsake the Word to obey just four details of it. You are mistaken if you think so. Read all the letters to the gentiles---obedience to the Word is always required by Grace.

The tithe is the Lord's, and it is holy in His eyes.

Comment: The OT tithe was only food from inside Israel. It was just as holy as hundreds of things in the book of Leviticus which the church no longer observes.

**Where do you get this? Don't you remember that they cashed in their tithe to go to Jerusalem, then used the money later? Your argument is silly.

God has a plan to support His full time workers by means of the tithe.

Comment: The Bible does not teach that gospel workers MUST be full-time workers. Paul was not a rebellious worker because he did not accept compensation most of the time.

**I agree we don't have to be "full time" in ministry. Yet to say workers should be "part-time" is not accurate. I have much respect for those who support themselves in the ministry.

Tithing has always been the practice of God's faithful:

Comment: Only farmers and herdsmen who lived inside Israel were expected to tithe. Jesus, Peter and Paul did not qualify as tithe-payers.

**Where do you get this? What Bible are you reading?

before the Law of Moses

Comment: If we follow Abraham̢۪s example we (1) only tithe pagan spoils of war, (2) only tithe once, (3) do not tithe from our personal possessions and (4) give the other 90% to the equivalent of the king of Sodom.

**My point is that the Word does indeed use Abraham as a tithing example (see Hebrews 7) before the OT Law was introduced.

under the Law

Comment: Gentiles and the church were never under the Law. Tithe recipients could not inherit land. OT priests have been replaced by the priesthood of every believer.

**I do not advocate a return to the ceremonial Law/OT priesthood, but obedience to God's principle of tithing that is from His Heart.

during the earthly ministry of Jesus

Comment: Jesus ministry fits under the previous category of under the law. As a carpenter Jesus was not required to tithe. Jesus could not have told his Gentile disciples to tithe.

**Jesus Christ never changes! Your insistence that carpenters did not tithe is where in the Bible? Jesus never taught against the tithe!

and also that of the first century church.

Comment: The opposite is true. See Acts 15 and 21.

** Acts reveals the legalism the Jerusalem church was stuck in. Yet there is no teaching against tithing in the NT.

Heb 7:1-8

Comment: Heb 7:12-19 finishes the statement. In 12 it is necessary to change the law of tithes mentioned in 7:5. The change was its annulment in 7:18.

The Pentateuch has many verses that reveal God's tithing program (Lev. 27:30-33; Num. 18:21, 24, 26-32; Mal. 3:6-12, 16-18; 2 Chron. 31:4-8 & 19-21; Neh. 10:32-39 & 12:44-47 & 13:10-12).

Comment: All of those verses define the tithe as food from farmers and herdsmen inside Israel. They were received by those who forfeited land inheritance. None of the practices in those texts are followed by churches today. Explain Neh 10:37b.

**These people were nearly all agrarian! Why do you keep making this point? The church today is so far from the Biblical pattern that it is ridiculous! We need a total reformation back to God's Word, not more adherence to the teachings of the "fathers".

1 Cor 9:13 describes ALL means of Temple support – not just tithing. Therefore your interpretation of 9:14 demands that you reinstate ALL means of Temple support not just tithing.

**I am simple sharing the Truth of the NT Word with you. You are twisting it to fit your interpretation. Paul clearly teaches gentiles to support gospel workers "in the same way" as the Levits were supported---with the tithe.

1 Tim. 5:17-18

Comment: Compare to 1st Timothy 5:8 and Acts 20:29-35. The focus of 5:17-18 is double honor while being disciplined per verses 1-18.

**"Honor" clearly meant financial support to help meet the needs of the people (elderly parents, widows, elders). Paul taught the same things in all the churches. And He taught that we need to support both itinerant workers and other preaching/teaching elders with the "same" tithe as the Levites received.


A great mistake is made when the tithe is used to fund the church building. This is not Biblical and will reduce the church's ability to reach the unreached.

Comment: OT tithes were never used to reach the Gentiles or support missionaries.

**But they were also used to assist the poor & the alien among them, after the needs of the Levites in all the different towns of Israel were met.


It is interesting that in the Old Covenant, God only provided ONE building for the whole nation of Israel to meet at.

Comment: He only provided one building for the whole nation to OFFER SACRIFICES. They could meet and study and pray anywhere they wanted. They worshipped inside their homes and had schools of the prophets.

**True, but my point is that tithes were not ever used for buildings---period. We are wasting so much on church buildings!

Equality was the standard that determined when and whom to help with offerings. The Book of Acts is clear on this issue (Acts 2:42-47 and 4:32-37). Those who had an abundance helped those who were in need of material support. Poor widows and orphans were certainly recipients of such offerings (Acts 6:1-2 and James 1:27). The priority was to help the family of God (Gal. 6:9-10), although it pleased the Lord when you helped a stranger or your enemy who was in need (Luke 6:35-36). The amount of the offering was not important (note the poor widow's offering to the temple or the two fish and five loaves of bread the little boy offered), but the cheerful, willing, and sacrificial nature of this gift made it pleasing to the Lord.

Comment: AGREED.

there was little or no New Testament church emphasis given to church buildings.

Comment: Christianity was an illegal religion until 313. They had to hide to meet most of the time.

**If church buildings are important, then Jesus & His first apostles would have taught us this. Thus church buildings are unbiblical.

Certainly the Holy Spirit must direct us,

Comment: Using New Covenant post-Calvary principles.

**He will honor His Word---all of it. In fact, that is His responsibility, not ours, to determine.

Start with a conviction concerning tithing.

Comment: There are 25 OT tithing principles and NONE are followed by any NT church today.

**The principle of tithing is totally biblical and for us. You are not biblical in your views. What makes you the expert on the practices of all NT churches? You are teaching error, adding to and subtracting from God's Word to suit your personal views. Now you have been warned.

Be committed to the Great Commission.

Comment: Unlike Hebrews in the OT. This is a great change.

Be obedient and give to help poor and oppressed believers.

Comment: Yes.

Jace said...

hey, what's the deal with your comment? your comment has no context either. what are you trying to say?

cuz...I agree with you. Tithing should no longer be a practice since this is the NT church.

The Reed Family said...

Hello, I don't kow you nor you me, let alone my religious beliefs. I do not appreciate you commenting on my blog about tithing. You are free to worship how you like, as am I and I would never try to tell you you were wrong especially not even knowing who you are on any level. I would ask you to please not make any further comments on my blog. THank you

Anonymous said...

if i were you i would re-think the whole tithing thing... search the scripture and pray hard about it...