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Monday, February 24, 2020

ANSWERING A TITHE-TEACHING PASTOR


ANSWERING A TITHE-TEACHING PASTOR

He: My pastor states that The Law wasn't done away with.

Russ: First, what verses does he use to make such a statement? The Law was an indivisible whole; we are either under all of it of none of it (Mt 5:17-18 as illustrated by Jesus in 5:19-48). Romans 6:5, 6 says our old man is dead; Romans 7:4 says “we” are dead to the Law. Romans 10:4 says that Christ is the “end” of the Law. The law cannot tell a dead man what to do “We” only refers to Jews like Paul. Galatians 3:18-19 says the law was “until” and Galatians 3:25 says “we” are no longer under the law as our schoolmaster. That means all of the Law, and not just part of it. Again, before Calvary Gentiles were under the “law” principles of nature and conscience Rom 1:19-20 and 2:14-16.

He: He seems to understand that money existed and was not used as tithes.

Russ: He is correct. True holy tithes were always only food from inside God’s holy land.

He: Yet still says that money is used today …

Russ: Money is used incorrectly today. God never changed the definition of the holy tithe.

He: … back then food was used as bartering system.

Russ: Not true. “Money” in the form of silver and gold was used. The word occurs very often before tithing was taught.

He: " How would church survive without money?"

Russ: The question does snot exist if one admits that the church is not supported by literal true Old Covenant tithes. Jesus said to give to Caesar money which has Caesar’s image and language upon it. That does not apply today because the entire system of temple has been replaced.

He: He states that todays churches dont have a spirit of giving.

Russ: True, but not because of tithing. Law-tithing cannot equate to grace giving motivated by love for others. OT Israel did not use tithes to build missions to convert Gentiles.

He: He also states that we should then give all as the Acts church did.

Russ: This is illogical. How would we are for our family and meet family financial needs?  It is contrary to First Timothy 5:8. God did not tell the early Church in Acts to give all. They freely chose to do it in an emergency situation. Your pastor does not give all of his salary to the church!!!

He: You have leasons on tithing, do you have lessons on New Testament giving?

Russ: Read my book, chapters 26-28, pages 224-245. It is posted free on my web site.

In Christ’s love
Russ Kelly

Tuesday, February 11, 2020

1 Jon 5:7


FIRST JOHN 5:7

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit (n) that beareth witness (n), because the Spirit (n) is truth (f).
1 John 5:7 For there (m) are three (m: ‘oi treis) that bear record (m)
[in heaven, the Father (m), the Word (m), and the (‘oi) Holy Ghost (m: Jn 16:13): and these (m: ‘outos) three (m: treis) are one (m).]
1 John 5:8 And there (m) are three (m) that bear witness in earth, the spirit (n: pneuma), and the water (n; ’udata), and the blood (n: ’aima): and these three (m: ‘ho treis) agree in one (n: ta en).

“Three” in 5:8 is masculine in Greek. The three nouns (spirit, water and blood) are all neuter. Proper grammar demands that “three” refers to the “Father, Word and Holy Spirit.”

First John 5:7 is probably the most controversial text in the Bible. Since Westcott and Hort’s time (c1861), newer versions of the Bible either do not include it or add a footnote. The arch-conservative 1917 KJV Scofield Reference Bible reads: “It is generally agreed that v. 7 has no real authority and has been inserted.” The NKJ reads “Only four or five very late manuscripts contain these words in Greek.” The NAS reads “A few late manuscripts read …”

What are the facts?

A. It is true that few very early Greek manuscripts contain verse 7.
B. It is also true that used manuscripts were not kept because replacements from monasteries were always available.
C. Greek was only the preferred language in the East (Greece, Syria, Constantinople, Babylon and the Holy Land). The Greek Orthodox Church meticulously preserved God’s Word as sacred.
D. Arianism (non-Trinitarians) was an Eastern heresy which spread to many in North Africa and to the Germanic tribes which overran Europe and destroyed the Western Roman Empire.
E. Latin (not Greek) was the preferred language of the Roman Catholic Church in the West and North Africa. The scarcity of Greek manuscripts is to be expected.
F. The fact that the earliest existing Greek manuscripts such as Vaticanus B and Sinaiticus A (circa A. D. 350) do not contain First John 5:7 is not proof that the text is not genuine.
G. As evidenced from the following list, First John 5:7 was well-known in the early church long before A. D. 350.  Something that has never existed cannot be quoted, referenced or alluded!
H. This subject has been far more researched than I could ever do. For much more detail, Google “1 John 5:7 Another King James Believer” and “KJV Today.” “Another King James Believer” is fully detailed with the exact source and quotes of the early Church Fathers.
I. The 3rd and 4th editions of the United Bible Society’s Greek edition admits to eight early Church Fathers who quoted the text.

1. A. D. 150: Tatian, an Assyrian Christian included it in his Diatessaron. (Riplinger, New Age Bible Versions, 381) (L. Gaussen, Theopneustia, 1896, p194).

2. A. D. 157: The Waldenses used the Old Italia Bible which contained First John 5:7. They quoted it in their 1120 Confession.

3. A. D. 170: An Old Syriac Bible contains it. (Riplinger, ibid, 1993, p381) (L. Gaussen, ibid, 1896, p194)

4. A. D. 200: Tertullian quoted it in Adversus Praxean, Ch 25. (Riplinger, ibid, 381) (L. Gaussen, ibid, 1896, p194)

5. A. D. 200: An Old Latin manuscript contains it. (Kiplinger, ibid, p381)

6. A. D. 250: Cyprian quoted it in From the United Catholic Church 6. (Hill, Believing Bible Study, p211) (L. Gaussen, ibid, 1896, p194).

7. A. D. 350: Athanasius quoted it. (Riplinger ibid, 381) (L. Gaussen, ibid, 1896, p194)

8. A. D. 350: A document, Liber Apologentius, quoted it. (Riplinger, ibid, 381)

9. A. D. 380: Vadmarium quoted or referenced it. (Riplinger, ibid, 381)

10. A. D. 385: Priscillian and Idacius quote it. (Hills, ibid, 211)

11. A. D. 400: Augustine interpreted it in Contra Maximum 2.22.3 and alluded to it in his homily of First John.

12. A. D. 400-500: Many copies of the Latin Vulgate contain it. The Roman Catholic Church knew it existed and added it after Jerome’s death. (Gaussen, ibid, 194) (Riplinger, ibid, 381)

13. A. D. 415: Documents from the Council of Carthage quote it. (Riplinger, ibid, 381)

14. A.D. 405: Jerome’s original Latin Bible contained it. (Riplinger, ibid, 381) Jerome translated the Old Latin Bible into the Latin Vulgate Bible. Jerome even stated that Arian (non-Trinitarian) scribes had been removing the text. Many thousands of Latin Bibles contain it.

15. A. D. 435: Cassian quoted or referenced it. (Riplinger, ibid, 381)

16. A. D. 484: Vigilius quoted or referenced it. (Riplinger, ibid, 381)

17. A. D. 484: Four hundred North African bishops signed a Confession of Faith which quoted it. (L. Gaussen, ibid, 194) (Hills, ibid, 211)

18. A. D. 489: Victor-Villa quoted or referenced it. (Riplinger, ibid, 381)

19. A. D. 533: Fulgentius quoted or referenced it. (Riplinger, ibid, 381)

20. A. D. 570: Cassiodorus quoted it. (Moorman, ibid, 234)

21. A. D. 800: The Latin Vulgate added it from the Old Latin. (Moorman, ibid, p234)

22. A. D. 1120: The Waldenses quoted it in their doctrinal confession. (See A. D. 157.)

23. A. D. 1295: The first Armenian Bible (1666) based on a 1295 manuscript contain it.

24. A. D. 1380: The Wycliffe Bible included it.

25. A. D. 1466-1490: (Old) German Bible had it.

26. A. D. 1520: Erasmus’ third edition contained it because Roman Catholic Church leaders insisted it had been accepted by the Church.

27. A. D. 1522: Although Luther’s German Bible lacked it, after his death it was added by the German people who had accepted it. (James Ray Jasper, God Only Wrote One Bible, 1985, p34)

28. A. D. 1535: The Tyndale Bible included it.
29. A. D. 1537: Matthew’s Bible included it.
30. A. D. 1539: The Taverner Bible included it.
31. A. D. 1539: The Great Bible included it.
32. A. D. 1550: John Calvin accepted it as genuine. (Hills, ibid, 203)
33. A. D. 1557: The Geneva New Testament had it.
34. A. D. 1568: The Bishop’s Bible had it.
35. A. D. 1600: Theodore Beza included it. (Hills, ibid, 205)
36. A. D. 1611: The King James Bible included it.

37. A. D. 1646: Westminster Confession, chapter II, references it.
38. A. D. 1689: The London Baptist Confession includes it.
37. A. D. 1700: John Wesley accepted it. (Jasper, ibid, 34)
38. A. D. 1700: Matthew Henry accepted it.
39. A. D. 1743: The first printed Georgian Bible in Moscow contains it.

40. A. D. 1881 was the first time the text was removed from the standard English Bible.

41. A. D. 1815: Frederic Nolan wrote a defense of it.

42. A. D. 1852: John Murdock’s Syriac Peshitta Bible has it.

43. A. D. 1891: Robert L. Dabney wrote a defense of it.

44. A. D. 1950: Roman Catholic Douay Bible has it.

45. A. D. 1970: Peter Ruckman, President of Pensacola Bible College, accept it. (The Christian’s Handbook of Manuscript Evidence)

46. A. D. 1997: Nineteen (19) late cursive manuscripts contain the text.  Sixty (60) lectionaries contain it. Uncials R, F. M and Q contain it.

47. A. D. 2009: Roman Catholic Sacred Bible Public Domain Version has it.

48.  2010: J. A. Moorman, When the KJV Departs from the Majority Text, accepts it.         

49. A. D. 2012: Roman Catholic Revised Douay-Rheims Version has it.

50. 2017: The Greek Nestle-Aland, 26th edition, lists 8 (not 4) Greek manuscripts which contain the verse (1 John 5:7). Metzger and the UBS 1st edition list nine (9).

CONCLUSION:
God promised to preserve His Word forever. He did not allow His Holy Bible to be lost for almost 1300 years and then begin its restoration using two men who were spiritualists and did not believe in its inspiration and preservation.

It is dishonest to state that “the earliest Greek manuscripts do not contain First John 5:7” without telling “the rest of the story.” Like all of the Textus Receptus, God has also preserved First John 5:7 (1) using the Early Church Fathers, (2) using the Old Italia Bible, the Old German Bible, the Old Latin Bible, the Syriac Peshitta and (3) especially the Greek Orthodox Church. The “late” Greek manuscripts reflect the preservation of the earliest Traditional Byzantine text as seen in the Textus Receptus.

Russell Earl Kelly PHD