Come Let Us Grow Together tithing
Russell
Kelly Rebuts cpministries
Feb
18, 2017, Come Let Us Grow Together
Grow:
A crucial topic that many Christians do not understand is that paying tithes is
a commandment of God and does not cease under the New Testament Covenant.
Kelly:
Not a single statement in this article applies to the church today.
Grow:
Something many overlook is that tithing was instituted before the Law of Moses
came to be.
Kelly:
The tithing which existed before the law in Genesis 14 and 22 was pagan in origin
and practiced by many pagan religions before 2000 BC.
Grow:
Therefore tithing is outside of the Law.
Kelly:
Abram’s and Jacob’s tithes from pagan sources would not have been classified as
holy tithes under the law by Moses, Nehemiah, Malachi or Jesus.
Grow:
Tithing was also in the Law.
Kelly:
According to Leviticus 27:30-34 and 15 other pre-Calvary texts, holy tithes (as
the word is used by Moses, Nehemiah, Malachi and Jesus) were always only food
from inside God’s holy land of Israel. The first whole Levitical tithe went to
the servants of the priests (Numb 18:21-24) and ministers only received one per
cent (Numb 18:25-28). Tithe recipients could not inherit land in Israel or
amass wealth (Numb 18:20). None of this is followed today.
Grow:
Jesus Christ is after the order of Melchisedec.
Kelly:
Yes, the “order” of “priest-king” and not the literal historical person of
Melchizedek.
Grow:
Heb 7:2 first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that
also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
Kelly:
Notice that Jesus was literally the King of Righteousness and the King of
Peace. The literal historical person of Melchizedek was only such “by
interpretation.”
Grow:
Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek. … Tithing was being instituted here.
Kelly:
Not holy biblical tithes as the word is used by Moses and Jesus. The Bible does
not tell us why uncircumcised Gentile Abram tithed.
Grow:
7:3 tenth of the spoils.
Kelly:
Yes. Not holy tithes from inside holy
Israel. Spoils were from pagan sources. Not an example.
Grow:
5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of
the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to
the law
Kelly:
Heb 5 controls the words “commandment,” “tithes” and “law” in Hebrews 7.
Grow:
Heb 7:7 Melchisedec who was God.
Kelly:
No, the literal historical Melchizedek was only a type of Christ --- by
interpretation of his name – by a similitude. His unrecorded birth, genealogy
and death makes him a type.
Grow:
Heb 7:8
Kelly:
The temple was still operating and its Levites and priests were still receiving
Christ as His representatives.
Grow:
There are two orders. The order of Aaron and the order of
Melchisedec.
Kelly:
Since Israel had no king-priests, it was necessary to go outside of its
structure to find a typical “order” among the Gentiles who had many
king-priests.
Grow:
Romans 3:19-20
Kelly:
Romans 3:21-23.
Grow:
Hebrews 8:6-8
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Kelly:
Now every believer is a priest before God and priests did not tithe. They gave
sacrificially.
Grow:
Heb 8:8
Kelly:
Heb 8:9 The New Covenant is not the Old Covenant repeated.
Grow:
Hebrews 7:12
Kelly:
It was necessary to change the Old Covenant priesthood and the law governing
it.
Grow:
Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going
before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Kelly:
How was the law (of tithing from Heb 7:5) changed? Read your own text; it is
clear. It was abolished, annulled, abrogated. It was not transferred to the gospel
ministry.
Grow:
Heb 7:26-28
Kelly:
This is the lesson of Hebrews 7 --- not tithing. Aaron’s priesthood was
replaced by Christ’s according to the “order” of Melchizedek. Unlike Aaron,
Jesus’ priesthood is that of a king-priest.
Grow:
Remember that when you pay tithes, you are not tithing unto men but unto God.
Kelly:
A.
You define holy tithes wrong.
B.
You give them to gospel workers instead of
their (Levite) servants.
C.
You allow so-called tithe recipients to own
and inherit much property and amass much wealth.
D.
Nothing you teach about tithes can be
defended in context from God’s Word.
E.
I invite an open public discussion of this
subject but none will do so because they lose at every point.
Grow:
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.
Kelly:
And how do you interpret this text? What is the difference between the Old and
New Covenants?
Grow:
Malachi 3:8-11
Kelly:
In Mal 3:1o tithes are still only food from inside Israel 1000 years after Leviticus
27:30-34. TEACH THAT. In 1:6-14; 2:1-10; 2:13-17 and throughout God curses the
dishonest ministers for stealing the tithe (1:6-14 and Neh 134:5-10).
Grow:
1 Corinthians 9:9-14
Kelly:
Each vocation has its own principles of support: soldier, farmer, herdsman,
temple worker and gospel worker. The gospel worker is to live by principles of
the gospel – grace and faith.
Russell
Earl Kelly
russkellyphd@yahoo.com
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